In the King James Version of the Bible the text reads:
- 27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of
- old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
- 28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh
- on a woman to lust after her hath committed
- adultery with her already in his heart.
The World English Bible translates the passage as:
- 27 “You have heard that it was said,
- ‘You shall not commit adultery;’
- 28 but I tell you that everyone who gazes at a
- woman to lust after her has committed
- adultery with her already in his heart.
In the King James Version of the Bible the text reads:
- And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out,
- and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for
- thee that one of thy members should perish, and
- not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
The World English Bible translates the passage as:
- If your right eye causes you to stumble, pluck it
- out and throw it away from you. For it is more
- profitable for you that one of your members should
- perish, than for your whole body to be cast into Gehenna.
“The Mystery of Ishtar and Tammuz provides a key for understanding the world-redemptive destiny of the North Atlantic.” — K. H
Nimrod – Toward a Screenplay by DanielS
Atmosphere music: King Crimson, The Sheltering Skye (studio version is appropriate, but only this live version is currently available on Youtube). Here, a recording of the studio version has been put on line.
What is the antithetical taboo to miscegenation? Of course it is incest.
What is the greatest horror? It is unavoidable negative fate and its eternal recurrence.
These themes are captured in the most classic, and primordial even, of Western narratives – in the story of Oedipus Rex and his mother/wife Jocasta, going back further historically, in the Egyptian story of Osiris and his half sister/wife Isis, back further still, to Ishtar and Tammuz, and finally to Nimrod, the first great man on earth, Genesis 10:10, and his mother/wife, Semiramis.
Infiltration of the Babylonian Mystery Religion, Mother of all Wanton Harlots, 666, etc.
Now the reason is understood as to why Abraham was against this mystery religion – because it sacralized re-breeding to the point of inbreeding even, where necessary, while Abraham in the case of Babylon wanted to promote out breeding among its gentiles and later, wanted to do that to Rome, in order to bring down these adversaries of Israel and the Jews.
Hence the true evil mystery religions, universal Abrahamism, was imposed upon the world. Monotheistic of god’s “chosen people”, it was mongrelizing for all people except the Jews.
And the antidote taboo-breaking of incest, its sacralization (as a ritualistic gesture), was confounded as the greatest evil – and indeed it must be mostly symbolic as such unions are obviously going to result in the likes of King Tut’s massive health problems (himself a product of incest) or even Charles – il Tamponini – and Harry’s odd taste in women, as sort of a convulsive, balancing reaction (a little levity there, for those who share my distaste for their taste).
Thus, we want to avoid its reality beyond sacred ritual – and not just for physical maladies, but because we want to be careful about psychological effects as well on the formation of minds. At any rate, it is not commendable to take away the relatively agentive, mature and well informed choice of sexual partner. Sex is not only an important matter in determining the population of a human ecology, but a matter of confirmation and disconfirmation of personalities, virtues (or not), politics and more.
“Enjoy the fantasy” may break the over alluringness of the incest taboo for those prone.
So that’s some background to let the audience know that I’m not playing loosely with a justifiable taboo: If it is to be thematized as a counter taboo and aspect of sacralization toward a narrative to run counter to the Abrahamic cult of out-breeding, it must be done with sufficient accountability – even its narrative form must be discussed with caution and look toward matters of scientific verificaton; e.g., regarding what amount of inbreeding is alright, beneficial or detrimental; physically as well as psychologically and sociologically.
Having issued that caveat….
I conceived of writing this screenplay many years ago (early 80s), still stuck in the Abrahamic way, I thought to render its story along the conventional Abrahamic lines, of the pervasive infiltration of the evil mystery religion – into Western traditions and “false” practices of Christianity, most symbolically with Christmas – to deceive the peoples of earth against the “true” Christianity.
Now I see it the other way around – that Abrahamism holds the true horror, is the evil mystery religion which has (more literally) infiltrated pervasive world practice.. e.g., in purity spiral to “pure objective warrant” against relative group interests, we worship a virgin birth and self sacrifice instead of a product, to some extent, of tribal and royal line in-group breeding… symbolizing the cultivated turn, deliberation rather than sheer liberalism; i.e., not quite severe inbreeding, but recreating the genetic pattern of our human ecologies.
With Abrahamism, rather, our fate is re-designated, or de-designated, as it were, “gentiles” – re-designated beyond our control, the fate of our people, beyond our management. Our hope is not our future with our peoples. Our only hope for salvation is through selflessness and altruism – one with the Jewish god against our people; our reward held up not for this life, but in our death.
The only foreseeable way out once having been intimidated by its book of Revelation, with eternal hell, 666, having to “hate one’s family”, where one is evil for even having a thought, etc., is to identify, to conceive of oneself, one’s people and to make oneself and people as-one-with the Jews as possible; for example:
“The peoples of the United States, the British Commonwealth nations, and the nations of northwestern Europe are, in fact, the peoples of the Ten Tribes of the House of Israel. The Jewish People are the House of Judah.”
Christian Identity is a culmination of the true infiltration of the evil mystery religion – i.e., Abrahamism, Abrahamic imperialism upon Western peoples and ultimately the whole world.
It compels full culturalist merging as well, through false opposition, Noahide law and the paleoconservatism of the Dissident Right.
To be continued, that is, I will be cultivating this screenplay on line…
The Counter Taboo…
Opening scene: Music, The Sheltering Skye by King Crimson. Characters: mother, father with two children, a boy and a girl. The mother and father are decorating the Christmas tree with their son…he goes up stairs…
Why broach this taboo? Well, I am not unique, but rather connecting with the most classic of classic European Dramatists, Sophocles:
Stewardship of our people’s interests is told through a cautionary tale of the incest taboo having been violated in ignorance, despite its having been foretold, the horror of inevitable fate.
Sophocles’ Oedipus and Jocasta drew upon but steered a different course from the reverence of Nimrod and Semiramus and like permutations through other near eastern religions, such as Osiris and Isis.
Sophocles added the horror of eternal recurrence, unavoidable fate and discovery thereof. A cautionary tale against avoidance of management of group genetic interests in optimality, avoiding too much (incest) and too little (miscegenation).
“I don’t have to tell you about the tyranny of patterns, what you might not know is that you have to accept them.” – Gregory Bateson.
In addition to my not believing it, the idea of eternal recurrence or ubercyclicality as found in Nietzsche, Spengler, kind of in Hegel too et.al, it is also just plain repugnant to me (I like mine and my people’s agency, thank you very much), and I believe determinism, eternally recurring cycles and inevitable fate is repugnant for most other people as well; that is why it works well as a plot vehicle for horror movies.
Pardon the quick leap from the ancients, the profound and ultra Classic to the contemporary and the kitsch, but this is where the contemporary theme follows in best illustration.
That is, three contemporary horror movies come to mind and gave me inspiration to use this plot device of unavoidable fate: Crohaven Farm, The Sentinel and The Omen.
Thus I might propose salvation through counter taboo from the horror of this unavoidable fate, eternal cycles and eternal recurrence, by a managed cyclicality, rather, systemic homeostasis.
Crowhaven Farm, 1970
In the made for TV movie, Crohaven Farm, 1970, it is a woman’s inevitable fate, as a reincarnated Puritan, to be brought back to the farm where she had taken the man she desired by accusing his wife of being a witch; in this life cycle, she would be the one pressed to death if she did not yield her wedding ring to the woman she betrayed, come to life as a seductive underage girl (instead of a family member) to tempt her reincarnated husband and get revenge on him also, having his eternal loyalty back by ending his faillible, mortal life on this earth.
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The Omen, 1976
The Omen is another tale of inevitable fate; adding the cryptic horror of the mark of the beast 666 and the fear of eternal damnation that Christianity’s book of revelation holds over the heads of all “gentiles” non-compliant with Abrahamic law; and rather in line with the enemies of the Jews, the Babylonians and the Romans.
Fake biblical verse cited by the damned Father Brennan to Ambassador Thorn (Gregory Peck):
“When the Jews return to Zion and a comet fills the sky, and the Holy Roman Empire rises; then you and I must die. From the eternal sea he rises, creating armies on either shore, turning man against his brother, ’til man exists no more.”
Omen Music (accompanied by some good clips from the 1976 film)
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The Sentinel, 1977
The Sentinel 1977 is a film that suffers from silly ghoul makeup and special effects among other aspects that could have used more work; but it does have a few scary scenes, and a very scary aspect of inevitable fate – captured especially in the penultimate scene (1:26:00 to the end, where the still below is captured from). The Gill Melle score in this final scene skews from the usual horror music in a way that makes its accompaniment to her fate ultra creepy.
Ava Gardner plays a realtor who shows the way to barren fate.
One can imagine that given the profound biological imperative for females to have children, that being steered into a barren fate of a zombie nun Sentinel consigned to vigilance at the gates of hell for eternity would be rather disconcerting. There were also her cynical lesbian neighbors downstairs, who weren’t having any of this natalist stuff either.
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Papal Worship As Babylonian Mystery: The Worship of Nimrod and His Mother/Wife
In this fascinating narrative advanced by the Scottish Theologian Alexander Hislop, all supra-scriptural practices instituted by Roman Catholicism (naturally) are attributed to insidious expression of the evil Babylonian Mystery Religion:
Christmas, which should accurately take place in the Spring if scripture is to be faithfully demarcated, is thus a deceptive adherence to the Winter Solstice and Nimrod’s re-birthday – hence, an enactment of the Babylonian Mystery Religion. “True” Christians are being fooled in countless ways such as this, thinking that they are loyally engaged in a pure Christian tradition, when in fact they are really engaged in worship of the mystery religion as revealed by Hislop.
The way to counteract this evil infiltration and misrepresentation is to be found in true understanding of the texts.
One of the things preventing me from rendering this into a screenplay is that many on our side would see it as “a Jewish attack on Christmas and Christianity” wouldn’t they? That is among the double binds we are caught in and that keep us held with the Christian narrative, even where we do not consciously believe ourselves bound to the religion. We would supposedly be doing our people a disservice, while the devil’s bidding.
Adding yet another knot in the tangle is the argument that with the Christian texts already being the terms in which many of our people think, the currency for two thousand years now, there must be some ontological basis beneath, and we may as well find the positive logic to it for our purposes. However, with the texts being what they are, the motivations of the texts being as convoluted, Jewish and ambiguous as they were to begin, all that winds-up happening with the deciphering of our “true” logic behind Christianity is a contribution to the mess.
Hence, while I had originally meant for my next discussion to be directed toward the ontology project, I see now that it is necessary first to attend to pushing aside muck from the narrative side of our racial conceptualization, attending to where our narratives may speculatively overshoot and distract from adequate conceptualization.
The Hislop narrative is a story so fascinating that it holds sway over hundreds of millions of people. It forms the basis of The Jehovah’s Witnesses and The World Wide Church of God. It is a branch of Christianity that stems from a conviction in true exegesis, direct apprehension of the texts without the intermediary of the Catholic Church, from the same root that forms the basis of Christian Zionism and its tens of millions of adherents.
It is not exclusively legions of low I.Q. folks who are held captive. Even World Chess Champion Bobby Fischer found it captivating. Perhaps being a biological Jew, he unconsciously promoted The World Wide Church of God as it served the interests of Jews and Israel. Whatever his true motives, a man alleged to have a 187 I.Q. found The World Wide Church of God compelling enough to contribute significant money over several years.
Of course, getting to the “truth” beneath Christianity is a logical move to begin with, especially when you consider just how patently absurd it is at first glance while having held so many adherents for two millennia in spite of that.
Of marked significance for European history is this notion of direct apprehension and rendering of the truth of the texts – the reform of the Protestants. It may be hypothesized that this was based somewhat on reasonable prejudice (the need to maintain European distinctions) unreasonably expressed.
That is, for example, Germans wanting to be Germans or English wanting to be English and thus expressing this nonsense in a different way than before.
However, “truth” versus the evil mystery religion remains a compelling narrative despite being unreasonable; and the more it is beyond rationalization and account, perhaps the better it is a rally to thwart one’s adversaries and maintain a people’s distinctions.
Whether it serves our people’s interests or not, it is not easy to escape Christianity.
Not only is a moral order necessary, this one contains many double-binds, including one with regard to our mortal enemies: reject Christianity and you are as much as a Jew by Europe’s definition for two millennia: for we were Christendom. On the other hand, practice Christianity and you basically adopt the Jewish perspective: Rome and other impure Christians (other Europeans) are the greatest enemy and not just another European city and other European people. The Jews however are granted special status as a people who have not gotten it quite right just yet. Not to mention, ehem, look at who you are worshiping as god incarnate.
Jim has apparently found the story of uncovering the evil mystery behind Southern Europeans somewhat useful. Perhaps there is utility in cultivating this interpretation given the numbers of Northern European Christians in the Midwest of the U.S. or perhaps it is a remnant meme of the anti-Catholicism of endemic Christian-Zionism.
In this meme, anything but individual relation to the text and god is evil corruption. Perhaps it is a coincidence that individualists in relation to Jesus are not much challenge to Jewish Zionist authority.
Of course even people who believe themselves fully secular and freed from Zionism still experience Judeo-Christian influence in everything from habits, law, leisure and science – in particular, its relation of knower to known.
This Christian individualist relation to god was famously reinforced by the Enlightenment; in all likelihood only extended farther by the Cold War vilification of Marxist communist collectivization and furthered still by the Jewish interest of preventing Europeans from unionizing.
The double binds and toxicity of Christianity naturally become so poison after a while that they compel a convulsive, biological reaction, sometimes into collective defense such as Nazism, despite Christianity’s prescriptions. Nazism was in a sense, a purer form of Christianity yet, in another way still doing the Jews’ bidding, only culling the Jews, while attacking the “false worship” of European others; attacking White unionization in favor of a notion of supra-purity.
While a transcendent realm, beyond simple attack may even be necessary for defense of European peoples, one would hope that the prejudices between Europeans, which should exist to the extent necessary to maintain their distinctions, would not be beyond reason and beyond kindred, familial, brotherly or cousinly cooperation.
It is too bad that Hislop could not have just forthrightly proclaimed and found a way to maintain the Scottish distinction without doing the Jews bidding by rendering Southern and other Catholic Europeans the personification of Evil.
That isn’t to say there are not good reasons to maintain lines between European peoples, but when you are being equated with the Anti-Christ and Beast 666 (1) before tens of millions of idiots backed by The US/Israeli military industrial complex, that is a drag indeed.
We needn’t begrudge Northerners defending themselves, can even see their invocation of transcendent terms in order to do so, what is objectionable is this tradition of demonizing Southern Europeans, putting potential allies and buffering nations in jeopardy by vilifying them.
In Nordicist Christian theology, we should not be surprised but disappointed to find traces of Alexander Hislop’s motivational gobbledygook; i.e. a similar, convenient motivation to equate Rome and the South with evil.
If only Hislop could have said, we love being Scottish and wish to maintain all Northern European distinction. What European could, with any moral authority, reject that? None. No European could. There is an ontological difference that makes a difference between a Southern European and a Jew: The Jews could deny this, of course, they would say that we can do without the European differences. So too, could those under the Jewish spell and double binds of Christianity dispose of those differences; but it is the Jewish aspects of the narrative that compel that painful compliance. Christianity is a Jewish vexation and double bind to us all, not just Northerners – and it was not merely aimed to destroy Northerners, but primarily in fact, aimed at Rome. Thus, when Hislop and the Northerners tweak the Christian Narratives with their fascinating “exegesis” what they are doing is piling on the Southerners, destroying what remaining buffering capacity and natural defense they have against predators.
Haven’t we really had enough of this flight of fancy? Are we still to be blamed for the campaigns of Caesar and Nero? Do we still want to bicker about the historical impositions of Catholicism as opposed to the wonderful liberation of the Protestant Churches? Jesus, you guys want to drop the guilt trips about the Nazis. Fine – how about forgetting about Caesar and the Medieval Catholic Church already?
What is more sickening than a Northerner who says that he despises Southern Europeans so much that they can just drop dead but that Africans are OK?
Blacks are OK because we Northerners are so objective…we are not like those hot-tempered, prejudiced and collectivist Southerners who would be racists. No, our discrimination is based on the “purity of our interpretation.”
For Southerners are the people of the mystery religion, the Papal worship, of Nimrod and his mother wife.
A fascinating story and one that might be compelling to Northerners who don’t much care for Southerners.
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Whatever you believe, for your own good, don’t believe those who state, in hubris, that Blacks are fairly benign but misguided. Is criticism of Blacks really a diversion from Jews or is it a confrontation and correction of the Jewish misrepresentation of Black reality? Blacks are not natural allies against Jewish power when Jews are giving Blacks everything that they could never achieve on their own, including our women. One suspects that there is a measure of convenient pandering in the outlook: The “lower” Europeans are so uncouth but Africans are unproblematic, just misguided. Insulated in a technical niche, purblind up-in-their-heads or just disingenuous snobs, they would let the lower Europeans deal with the brunt and take the casualties from Blacks. Nevertheless, what insulation they have is temporary and precarious, especially without allies among Europeans..
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Inevitable Fate and The Hitchhiker's Guide to Syracuse, Sicily.
It was 1993 and the political correctness of the campus was becoming toxic for me. If there was any hope of my continuing on to be matriculated into the graduate program, my father himself was called upon to make a father and son trip to Italy with me to try to calm me down and bring me around. I played along, wanting the trip to Italy to be sure, but seeing it as a scouting trip upon a place I might have to go to escape from the insanity of America’s multi-cult.
At the airport, my sister had a confidential chat with my father, the kind she does when she approaches the bench in court; this time to quietly tell my father to tell me that “nobody agrees with you” – viz. with your racialist positions. Now, at that time, prior to the Internet, MacDonald and WN support, to hear that nobody agreed with me was toxic to the point of being poison. I was fighting this battle very much alone. At the very moment my sister quietly passed this advice on to my father, in the seating area nearby, an exquisite Italian girl was kissing her Negro boyfriend. Of course my father and sister were oblivious to this, a woman whom I would be happy to say was my wife, at least based on her looks to be sure. I seethed with the flagrant reminder that I needed to get out of America, to get to cultural backing and the genetic grounding that I did not have in America.
For it was already this statement, “nobody agrees with you”, that had produced one of my largest trances, one taking place in graduate class. It provoked a trance rage in me that had me lashing out at my professor and the class.
It was a level of pathology that my professor could not ignore. That must have been around the time that he called upon my father to have a conciliatory father – son vacation to Italy.
Prior to leaving, my professor wanted to relate an additional conciliatory anecdote, lest I be disappointed by the experience, he would let me down gentler still.
He told me about a book he’d read, The Hitchhiker’s Guide to The Universe. It is the story of a wanderer who travels all around and finally even to the planets. My professor asked me, “What do you think he came across when he arrived at a planet?”
He smiled when I guessed correctly, “a souvenir stand.”
Anyway, I did go on the trip to Italy with my father and I found his arguments of how I should not be a racist especially repugnant in light of all that I was up against and how obviously important our cause should be to a father: this was the opposite of conciliatory – infuriating, extremely insulting to the hard battle and academic work that I was doing to counter these popular sentiments so destructive to our people.
Obliviously, my father had related stories of how he testified before the Supreme Court that he “just wanted the same right of union access as anyone.” Jimmy Hoffa came looking for him after that; the FBI was stationed in front of our house for weeks to come. He told me that “there was a lot of fraternizing when Italy invaded the Somali land.” He told me “you weren’t raised to think like this.” Finally he said what for me were the magic, poison words, “nobody agrees with you.”
That was enough to have me fly-off the handle at him – enough so that he would all but cut me off from my inheritance; thanks to a chain of command: my sister and sister in law’s rank, their Jewish overlords pandering, of course. That episode set in motion right then, what would wind-up being an all too costly fight for my life a few years later.
To have some peace from one another, my father let me take the car and he stayed behind in our grandparent’s villages. I had a hankering to go to Sicily, Syracuse in particular – the antiquity and the thought of slinky, raven-haired beauties drove me on.
When I got there in the evening, I went to club Banacher, a mafia disco-tech with palm trees, outdoor swimming pools and elegant women who looked as if they’d walked out of the ancient gallery. The following night I caught a street-fair in Catania, where I saw some of the subtlest White beauties of my life. They were like so many wild flowers: their skin was White and their eyes were so beautiful, so subtle. I never was able to recapture a moment where a school of this type of women were so abundant; but I was grateful to have it confirmed for myself, just how beautiful these women could be.
The next day, I drove down to Syracuse and found a complex where three important historical artifacts exist adjacently.
There is a Greek Amphitheater where Aeschaelus, Sophocles and Plato had hung-out.
The Ear of Dionysus, a cave where slaves were granted hope of freedom only by fighting as gladiators in the nearby Roman Coliseum. (I would only learn that part in my next trip there).
This time, first time, I came upon the Roman Coliseum and what did I see? Of course – a souvenir stand.
I walked in without cynicism and sat down alone in this, surprisingly small coliseum. I looked around. There was a lot of grass overgrowth and the edges of the rocks had been worn, rounded by the ages.
I saw the crenellations near the top, something diminutive about their spacing, the scale…something profound and important in the human scale had been rushed-by by America. I began to cry, then to sob. It was like nothing I’d experienced before. It was only partly grief, partly catharsis, partly the joy of revelation. It was as if my whole body was having an orgasm.
To think, my professor had prepared me for a let down.
…when I walked out past the old ladies at the souvenir stand, they were very upset, visibly shaken, not understanding why I had been crying so hard…
I can only interpret beyond the profound feeling that something important of scale was being tragically left behind, run over rough shod.
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Archimedes, a Siracusan, had lived nearby. His talents were brought to an end by an independently acting Centurion, one homicide that perhaps set European math and science back thousands of years. In the ear of Dionysus, one could remain as a slave to the death or fight to the death as a gladiator in the improbable hope of gaining freedom. Our natural means of defending ourselves have been interrupted by the call to blind and dumb courage. Christianity is alleged to have been crucial in ending this wasteful practice. Though a highly flawed solution, I will argue that it was largely in good will that the Southerners attempted to bring it to the North – in order to put an end to the wasteful carnage of our people.
Among the gladiators, the fratricidal battles, the likes of Caesar contra the Gauls, Pickett’s charge and The Battle of The Somme will be looked upon the greatest evil. Among the corpses of these catastrophic avalanches burying our evolution, those surviving will resurrect and rebuild our authentic ontology.
Nay to any matriarchal thumbs down to our being: It is time to begin on the true ontological course of our co-evolutionary warrant in European Being.
In the undoing of these narrative Christian obfuscations, we are slowly making our way back to the possibility of ontological grounding.
We are getting ready to move our hermeneutic to a closer ontological reading:
What can we say of Europeans in their exemplars, their pursuit of truth, clarity to the point of empiricism even – about Epicurus in fact? an Archimedes? a da Vinci, a Galileo, a Newton, a Darwin, a Tesla, a Gödel, a Heisenberg?
Europeans as such are distinguished by their preference to attend to Augustinian Devils as opposed to Manichean Devils.
By “Manichaeism” I mean something very specific: changing the rules and deception in order to fool others; specifically Jewish trickery. Manichean Devils are a matter of trickery, deception and lies to defeat opponents. As opposed to Augustinian Devils, which are natural afflictions and challenges that, when solved, do not change once again in order to fool us. Augustinian Devils are matters of science, technology, truth, honesty, honor and tragedy.
In this Augustinian spirit was born the school of Epicureanism: the predecessor to empiricism which shunned superstition and sought to trace all to physical grounds.
It is characteristic of all Europeans not just Northerners, to prefer attention to Augustinian Devils as opposed to Manichean Devils. Augustinian Devils are a characteristically Southern European preference as well, the kind that was buried with the death of Archimedes, the Christian burial of the Epicureans, and the advance of the Jewish Manichean.
Jewish and Southern European aims are hardly one and the same. In fact, Jewish Manichaeism had successfully depicted Rome, their enemy, as the greatest evil, The Mother of all Whores, Wife of Nimrod, The Babylonian Mystery. (1)
However, Northern Europeans, especially, are by nature cooperative, non-tricksters. Confronted with the harsh elements, empirical and analytic questions were challenge enough. They could not have survived otherwise. The RESULT was that they became more individually strong, scientific and technological. Individualism was not the cause it was the effect of less competitive relations among them.
When we admire Northern Europeans, we admire them because they are decent and honest. We observe that decency and cooperation DOES NOT INTERFERE with the manifestation of our best exemplars – on the contrary, it allows for them and fosters them. And part of why it allows for them is that it does not compete with and destroy those who would buffer and support their existence.
Hence, their individuality and independence is afforded
…through a base of decency, cooperation, a respect for the processes and qualitative niches of their people.
For Northerners, seeking to render of themselves the heroes of the true Christian text, it is a “logical” step to see the Papacy as an expression of false religion. In fact, the Papacy is a folly of being entangled in the double bind of Jewish Christianity.
In respect of Rome versus the Jews Nietzsche was right – they won. However, other versions of Christianity offer little recourse from Jewish Manichaeism: rather they “offer” the divide and conquer of Europeans fighting among themselves, they “offer” our weakening by promoting individualist pursuit of the pure understanding and relation to the Jew in the sky, or to look upon the Jews as a specially chosen people. So long as the goal of a “pure” understanding of the texts does nothing to change the texts, reinterpretation of Christian texts offers no escape as they are inextricably tangled with Jewish interests and with our relative dis-empowerment.
Neither is the assessment of pernicious motive to the Southerner Europeans for extending Christianity to the North particularly accurate. The Jewish motivation, its Manichaeism that entangled Christianity to the point of making it toxic from its onset, despite any interpretation, does need to be separated from the Southern European motive. In attempting to extend Christianity, it was at least part of the Southerners’ motivation to seek relief from the military campaigns, the aforementioned routine carnage, the violent hostilities with “uncivilized” out-groups. Any people who were not Christians were seen as liable to re-enact the brutality. To some extent, hence, they sought a radical way back to their own cooperative ways – cooperative ways which must have existed in large part to begin with – and to find common moral order with Northerners. In fact, they sought to connect with something that the Northerners already had in spades and depended upon – decency and cooperation in the polity.
While the Jews purposes for advancing Christianity were deceptive, I doubt the Southerners’ motives for extending Christianity were egregious on balance.
It is time to tell a trivial difference from a profound difference.
It is the spirit of cooperation under-girding Europeans, the Europeans of the South and Northern kinds that will return us to our authentic ontology.
Our ontology, we’ll turn attention there next.
In summation:
Alexander Hislop’s story of the infiltration of the evil Babylonian Mystery Religion into expressions of Catholicism is a fascinating tale that holds sway over hundreds of millions world wide. It provided the groundwork for The Jehovah’s Witnesses, The World Wide Church of God and similar denominations. It is an offshoot of the Protestant conviction for the true exegesis, direct apprehension of the texts without the intermediary of the Catholic Church; this pursuit of the truth in highly ambiguous, Jewish motivated texts, forms the susceptible basis of Christian Zionism and its tens of millions of adherents.
It is not exclusively legions of the low I.Q. who are held captive. The likes of Bobby Fischer, 187 I.Q. and all, could be persuaded to contribute significant money over several years.
Getting to the “truth” beneath Christianity is a logical move when you consider just how absurd the texts are in the first place; then go on to wonder what are in fact, the logics behind which have held so many good-hearted people in adherence for so long.
However, of marked significance for European history is this notion of direct apprehension and rendering of the truth of the texts – the reform of the Protestants. It may be hypothesized that this was based somewhat on reasonable prejudice (the need to maintain European distinctions) unreasonably expressed.
(1) Apparently Nero was beast 666. Because the Jews could not speak in open terms to build resistance to overthrow Rome, they used a symbolic, codified manner of speaking in “The Revelation.”
Cryptically, the traditional, ancient enemies of the Jews, The Babylonians and Nimrod, were symbolically superimposed upon the later enemy of the Jews, The Roman Empire.
“Whether or not conceived as having ultimately repented, Nimrod remained in Jewish and Islamic tradition an emblematic evil person, an archetype of an idolater and a tyrannical king. In rabbinical writings up to the present, he is almost invariably referred to as “Nimrod the Evil” (Hebrew: נמרוד הרשע)”
Comments:
Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 10 Mar 2013 01:09 | #
Thank you very much for that, Daniel, which I enjoyed very much.
I don’t know what I can add to it. Perhaps that divisiveness, north-south or otherwise, is a condition of humanity. It isn’t just about actual difference or even a difference of opinion. It is to do with a constructed tribalism … with being something and not just nothing – certainly at the more local level. Division gives form to false identity, which is better than no identity. It is, in the end, a sign of emptiness and of fear of emptiness.
In authentic unities there is no necessity for it, and we know an authentic unity by its shared truths. To find the unity of north and south in Europe will take some “closer ontological reading”, that’s for sure. It is a pity that Christianity, as flawed as it is from a European racial perspective, is undeniably part of the unity of north and south. We are stuck with it, for it has been too close for too long to us – and the faithful must have their faith expressions, after all.
Posted by James Bowery on Sun, 10 Mar 2013 01:36 | #
My ontology does allow for “Christianity” as opposed to “JudeoChristianity” but since I find so few self-proclaimed “Christians” who will accept the true superiority of European culture, which was preserved the longest in northern Europe against the dragons, vipers, snakes, serpents, worms, giants and dwarves from north Africa and the Levant—for obvious reasons of geography and climate—I find little use for the term “Christian”. They’re all JudeoChristian as far as I’m concerned and they are damned to the Hell they create.
The two-sided coin of Judeo-Christianity was deftly flipped from side to side during the destruction of European culture—the Christ side being the “protein coat” with which the parasite got past the immune system by identifying with the individual standing in direct relation to Nature and Nature’s God as descendant against the theocratic corruption that demands obeisance to the “spirit of the age” of the body politic rather than the Holy spirit of the body descended from the Father. The Vikings, true to that spirit within, held out the longest and understandably viewed with utter contempt JudeoChristianity as well as “kings” such as Olaf the Lawbreaker who roamed the countryside with a group of armed men—a dragon of JudeoChristianity in a land where dragons were outlawed.
It is unfortunate that as much as Brits identify with George the Dragon Slayer, they have swallowed, hook, line and sinker, the JudeoChristian mutilation of his deeds.
There is a practical side to ontology:
Using animal imagery allows access to deep brain structures forging coherence between our waking consciousness and our unconscious strength as animals. It is best not to even perceive “people” like Tim Wise, Barack Obama, etc. The dragon exists as a whole agency and its parts do not possess anything our subconscious should recognize an identity apart.
Posted by DanielS on Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:09 | #
Thanks GW and Jim, appreciate your comments.
I have been trying not to comment too much while discussion of native British politics is going-on.
John Lee Barnes made some interesting comments. The Weston video and his new party seem to commend attention as well.
Posted by James Bowery on Sun, 10 Mar 2013 21:41 | #
Sharing DanielS’s expressed concern, I made the discussion of native British politics the top story on MR’s home page in recognition of its relative urgency despite comments in other threads.
Perhaps Southerners would be wise to reflect on the Roman law broken by Julius Caesar’s crossing of the Rubicon.
The analogous northern European law was to kill all dragons—regardless of origin—roaming their lands. Indeed, given that there was nothing, in northern Europe, akin to the Roman class system resulting in the corruption of the Patricians that provided the military with motive to follow Julius Caesar’s order to cross the Rubicon, the hostility toward the likes of Olaf the Lawbreaker’s dragon (not to mention invading dragons from foreign lands) is most understandable.
Moreover, the final days of Mark Antony saw him attempt to appeal to the Old Law of single combat which evidences the true heritage of European culture was still held in at least enough esteem to be used as a political ploy, even in Rome at that late date—albeit degraded from the Natural Duel embodied in the notion of isolation implied by “go to the island”. That the Italian city states continued to honor the degraded form of the Natural Duel well into the JudeoChristian era, at least among the nobility, is further evidence the spiritual oppression of Europe did not entirely destroy all vestiges of its authentic culture.
Posted by Desmond Jones on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 03:49 | #
Others argue that the insidious nature of the civilized people vis-a-vis the barbarians was less about Christianity (at least the Germanic syncretic version) and more about the “moral menace of Roman law”…
But nineteenth-century scholars also developed other, less-familiar arguments about the consequences of Roman “property absolutism”—arguments that focused not on the socioeconomic impact of changes in property law, but on the moral impact, on the impact of changes in property law upon the prevailing sense of one’s moral duties to others. Beginning in 1828,(20) legal historians began to argue that the spread of Roman law had resulted, not merely in a redistribution of resources, but in changes in fundamental attitudes about trust and social duty. As one leading 1853 book put it, Roman and “Germanic” property law were informed by fundamentally different “basic intuitions [Grundanschauungen] about rights, freedom, and honor,” and the tale of the spread of Roman law was the tale of how Roman intuitions had penetrated Germanic “legal consciousness.”(21) Scholars who worked along these lines generally argued that because Roman property rights were not limited by obligations of trust or duty, the spread of Roman law encouraged an exploitative, antisocial, and “unbrotherly” attitude toward the world. The most famous technical version of this claim came from Otto von Gierke, who maintained that the psychic basis of Roman property law lay in the exercise of unfettered “will,” whereas the psychic basis of Germanic law lay in the “morally bound will.” Because Germanic law approached the social world in this “morally bound” way, Germanic law was “communal” where Roman law was “individualistic” and capitalistic.(22) The same line of argument also had a formative influence on some of the classic thinkers of early sociology—in particular on Ferdinand Tonnies, who built a powerful theoretical apparatus around the idea that commercial “society” was founded on a different form of “will,” and different attitudes toward property, from those of precommercial “community”:
Posted by James Bowery on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 05:49 | #
DanielS writes: “At any rate, I hardly feel guilty about Julius Caesar crossing the Rubicon.”
I don’t understand the motivation for this comment at all.
Please elaborate.
Posted by James Bowery on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 05:55 | #
DaneilS writes: “Not many people consider Ancient Greece and Rome non-European peoples. Nor do I.”
Its clear from the equisitely carved busts their phenotypes are European genotypes.
When I talk about European culture, I am talking about the artificial selective pressure based on transmissible values and norms that evolved the European genotype.
As I will never tire of pointing out: Unless you are very specific about your artificial selective criteria you are not fully human in that you are not taking responsibility for your role in evolution thence creation.
Posted by DanielS on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 10:26 | #
Desmond Number 9. Good post. If the Germanic tribes’ way of handling property had better results, i.e. if it was more responsible and moral, then it would be worth moving future treatment of property in that direction.
Posted by James Bowery on March 11, 2013, 12:49 AM | #
DanielS writes: “At any rate, I hardly feel guilty about Julius Caesar crossing the Rubicon.”
I don’t understand the motivation for this comment at all.
Please elaborate.
The motivation, hmm. Well, I think it has to do with a strong emphasis in discussions of north and south Europe, efforts to arrive at a true meaning of European and, a strong inclination to draw absolute lines on the pejorative impositions of the south, particularly Roman civilization. I get the sense that the campaigns and impositions of Rome should confer such guilt upon southern Europeans that even now they are beyond moral computation in the consideration of Euroman.
Rather, I agree with you – I’d rather Rome not have engaged these campaigns. I don’t take pride in their having gone around killing other Europeans and destroying their cultural differences.
Just the opposite. Rather, I am all ears and open to ideas about more favorable ways of doing things in our defense – which always includes maintaining our differences, of course.
I become concerned when this distinction , north and south European, is put in symbolic terms beyond reason and with that, when the southerners are lumped with Jews and Africans.
It seems to me a begging of the question: that these symbolic terms and emphasized demonizing of Roman influence may be an influence of Jewish motivations making their way through the Jewish/Christian text. Their demonizing of Rome as the greatest evil, their new Babylonian captors. That is, a bit more of a habit and received tradition than a fresh hypothesis. It is the Jewish influence especially, their wish to demonize Rome, which is most relevant to my skepticism of the hard line against the south. By making the Pope into the dragon or rather, Nimrod, Talmudic aims of divide and conquer are being served.
That is why I am especially wary of anti-Roman emphasis, to not be made to feel guilty.
Whether Caesar crossed the Rubicon, ruined the Gauls, was humiliated by Armenius in ancient history, I see important contemporary reasons for emphasizing the antagonistic differences between Southern Europeans, Jews and other non-Europeans; and emphasizing the rationale for cooperation between North and South: much as I do understand and appreciate your wish to protect Northern European differences, the Southerners should feel much the same in wanting to maintain European distinctions.
Posted by James Bowery on March 11, 2013, 12:55 AM | #
DaneilS writes: “Not many people consider Ancient Greece and Rome non-European peoples. Nor do I.”
Its clear from the equisitely carved busts their phenotypes are European genotypes.
When I talk about European culture, I am talking about the artificial selective pressure based on transmissible values and norms that evolved the European genotype.
As I will never tire of pointing out: Unless you are very specific about your artificial selective criteria you are not fully human in that you are not taking responsibility for your role in evolution thence creation.
Well, Ok. We’re getting to that. Next post we’ll have another go at it.
Posted by James Bowery on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 18:01 | #
DaneilS, I understand how, particularly in the context of your view that I am a “Nordicist”, you would impute the meaning to “Crossing the Rubicon” that you do. However, that is not how I meant it. I used it in its historically accurate meaning of the idiom. Please read that link and go back to reinterpret the words involving my first reference to the idiom in this thread.
Posted by DanielS on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 18:38 | #
Ok, I got your point. Though I had thought I understood the cliche, “crossing the Rubicon”, I did not.
I had thought it meant merely going onto new campaigns, to new endeavors, in that case, Northward.
What it actually means in in literal terms, and what you meant by it, was to go against State permission and initiate Civil War.
Apologies for the misunderstanding.
Posted by DanielS on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 18:49 | #
I don’t know if it helps a whole lot, but it does occur to me that the place in this post where I was critical of you was a bit too mean.
I’ve tried to soften it by rewriting it like this:
“Jim himself, apparently has found the story of uncovering the evil mystery behind Southern Europeans somewhat useful. Perhaps there is utility in cultivating this interpretation given the numbers of German Christians in the Midwest of the U.S. or perhaps it is a remnant meme of the anti-Catholicism of endemic Christian-Zionism.”
It is still not particularly nice, but I think it represents the provocation for the whole post.
Posted by DanielS on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:08 | #
Finally I replaced “German Christians”
with “Northern European Christians”
I really hate when I feel compelled to defend European differences. I want to be defending all Europeans.
Though I do agree the national and regional distinctions are very important.
Posted by James Bowery on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:06 | #
DanielS writes: “What it actually means in in literal terms, and what you meant by it, was to go against State permission and initiate Civil War.”
More to the point, there was a Roman conception of “peace” that involved the Greek idea (perhaps somewhat mutilated in the adoption) of a “Republic”, and that there was no place for Kings anywhere near the homeland—not foreign kings nor domestic kings. This Greek ideal of the Republic, degraded as it might have been in pre-Caesar Rome, had a good deal of the authentic European about it, and it is why I consider the US Constitution to have been somewhat of a recovery of the authentic European culture. However, in the case of the Greeks as with others in close contact with the Levant and north Africa, there was a continual corrosive action from an opposing culture of groups as the target of selective pressure. Over time this breeds for a different type of human—a human that is not properly thought of as an organism but as an organ.
Posted by James Bowery on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 21:08 | #
Of course, as I myself have have often repeated in my “attacks” on southern Europeans—as well as on Germans (in the modern nation state sense of that word) relative to, say, Norwegians during WW II. This applies to Jews relative to others in the middle East and is the basis for my predictions of “pan-Western Fascism” during the 1990s leading up to my prediction of a Reichstag-fire type fabrication around the turn of the millennium.
The problem with such immune responses are two fold:
1) They tend to take the form of group selectionism.
2) To the extent that they don’t take the form of group selectionism, they must be consciously conspiratorial if not outright militaristic—both of which are subject to moral censure by the “civilized”.
Posted by DanielS on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 22:02 | #
….
The problem with such immune responses are two fold:
1) They tend to take the form of group selectionism.
That would make a certain amount of sense. And I was eager to point out the likelihood that Northern individualism was a product growing out of a cooperative basis – they were more up against the elements than against collectivist groups and therefore develop in a good way as individuals. But it is also possible to exaggerate the extent of Southern collectivism; also to exaggerate the extent to which it is bad and the extent to which northern individualism is good.
2) To the extent that they don’t take the form of group selectionism, they must be consciously conspiratorial if not outright militaristic—both of which are subject to moral censure by the “civilized”.
There may also be a evolutionary psychological aspect to this immunity – just something that you are disposed to do as an organism. A healthy revulsion that say, the northerner might not understand so intuitively: “how could you be so racist?”
While I don’t think it necessarily has to express itself as conspiratorial or militaristic, I do think it is an excellent uncovering and focus of yours that these qualities of defending ourselves, our women and land as individuals – which I firmly believe exist in the Southerners as well, totally natural – have been prohibited by conspiracy, by Jewish conspiracy, and that’s the crucial problem – very good point.
But I believe blame lies far more there, with Jews, than with civilization. While civilization may want you to stop short of duels to the death, it should not be averse to doing what it takes to discourage foreigners from settling and making unjust claims on our resources and genetic stock.
I do admit though, that the rigor of your thinking points to something there: that which is sufficient to be discouraging has not generally been known as a part of European civilization. I believe, however, that it can and should be introduced as customary practice.
Posted by James Bowery on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 22:23 | #
I use the phrase “consciously conspiratorial” to contrast it against the “instinctively conspiratorial” which is the symptom of group selection—of organisms functioning as organic, rather than conscious, organs. These organic organs comprising a group organism are not subject to moral censure because of their “plausible deniability” in pretending to be organisms—individuals. These pseudo-individuals can then morally censure real individuals who must consciously act to defend themselves against the group organisms.
The big lie of civilization is that it is “natural selection” and so long as you place your definition of culture after other priorities, you are joining with them in your denial of responsibility for your part in Creation—responsibility that comes with Man’s authentic Being.
It is a mistake to castigate me for attacking “southerners” and defending “northerners” when what I am actually doing is defending the culture that produced both and is in eternal and mortal conflict with its ancient enemy that, at present, has the upper hand by pretending to hold the moral high ground in our minds. We cannot dispel the pretense to moral superiority by adopting or even mixing the enemy culture. We must never confuse the morality of joining forces to create a temporary group force with the “morality” of group selectionism lest we end up sacrificing our value.
Posted by DanielS on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:48 | #
Posted by James Bowery on March 11, 2013, 05:23 PM | #
I use the phrase “consciously conspiratorial” to contrast it against the “instinctively conspiratorial” which is the symptom of group selection—of organisms functioning as organic, rather than conscious, organs.
OK
These organic organs comprising a group organism are not subject to moral censure because of their “plausible deniability” in pretending to be organisms—individuals.
That makes good descriptive sense of Jews. They believe their own BS.
These pseudo-individuals can then morally censure real individuals who must consciously act to defend themselves against the group organisms.
Because their immorality is largely or partly opaque to themselves…OK.
That makes sense of what I see in them, listening to a Paul Wolfowitz, for example.
The big lie of civilization is that it is “natural selection”
Well, you are going by EO Wilson’s campfire definition of civilization whereas I am going on something like a social rules model which is more flexible and adoptable through internal relation: preferring persuasion to force as per Plato’s definition.
and so long as you place your definition of culture after other priorities, you are joining with them in your denial of responsibility for your part in Creation—responsibility that comes with Man’s authentic Being.
I don’t think that I am denying responsibility for creation, on the contrary. I will demonstrate this.
It is a mistake to castigate me for attacking “southerners” and defending “northerners” when what I am actually doing is defending the culture that produced both
OK, well, I’ll try not to be castigating, but I am aiming to get all of European allied in this effort. I’m not advancing assimilation. I do imagine there is a possibility say, on your laboratory of the states model, to allow for some people to experiment with more “civilized” ways and some to have more tribal, aboriginal European ways. It would be my ideal to allow for both. The choice may be almost paradoxically necessary, in fact.
and is in eternal and mortal conflict with its ancient enemy that, at present, has the upper hand by pretending to hold the moral high ground in our minds.
I believe there is this enemy. However, I’m not sure that proto Europeans were not a little more cooperative nor that they were valueless if they were. Even if they were more cooperative, their way of life is defensible in a non conflictual way along with more individualistic cultures.
We cannot dispel the pretense to moral superiority by adopting or even mixing the enemy culture.
Ok. That is what had me suggest that proto European tribes (as opposed to Aryans) may have been largely cooperative with one another; more, that the instinct to defend women and territory is not necessarily some sort of evil group metabolism but a normal response to a very different kind presuming to impose himself.
We must never confuse the morality of joining forces to create a temporary group force with the “morality” of group selectionism lest we end up sacrificing our value.
Ok, I’ll buy that. It is a subtle enough point however, that will probably require both redundancy and recontexting in other narrative in order for it to resonate a little more.
You’ve got me a bit confused. I don’t think I am acting on behalf of the group, as a group conduit in particular, when I want to dissuade a negro for example. While imposition deeply offends my sense of what is good and just, I experience quite acutely that I am having to act against social pressure.
However, if the social rules were different and recognized a moral order serving our interests that could make a huge difference. Hence, I believe your thrust is doing important good in consciousness raising, pointing to this prohibition on individual male initiative and the evil, phony moral superiority on which this prohibition rests.
ISIS reportedly destroyed some of the world’s greatest historical treasures in the Iraqi city of Nimrod.
The jihadist group posted an online video that shows them taking sledgehammers and jackhammers to artifacts and even using explosives to destroy items dating back to the 13th century B.C.
The items are from the Assyrian rule that began 2,500 years ago and stretched from the Mediterranean Sea to what is now Iran.
The Assyrians left behind dozens of palaces and temples that included such items as alabaster reliefs depicting kings conquering other lands and fighting lions. The artifacts also included images of Assyrian gods.
ISIS terrorists have been destroying ancient relics they say promote idolatry that violate their fundamentalist interpretation of Islamic law. Their destruction includes the ancient Iraqi city of Hatra, a UNESCO World Heritage site.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimrud
Archeologists believe that the city was given the name Nimrud in modern times after the Biblical Nimrod, a legendary hunting hero.[5][6] The city was identified as the Biblical city of Calah (Kalhu, Kalakh; in Hebrew כלח and in Greek χαλαχ), first referred to alongside Nimrod in Genesis 10, by Henry Rawlinson in 1850 on the basis of a possible interpretation of the city’s cuneiform proper name as “Levekh”.[7][8][note 1]
In 2015, the militant organization Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) announced its intention to destroy the site because of its “un-Islamic” nature. In March 2015, the Iraqi government reported that ISIL had used bulldozers to destroy excavated remains of the city. A video released in the same month showed a lamassu statue in the city being attacked with a sledgehammer. Another video posted online by the group in April 2015 showed the site being destroyed by bulldozers and explosives.[9]
Posted by How are a black man and a Christmas tree alike? on Wed, 25 Dec 2019 12:30 | #
They both have colored balls.
Posted by mancinblack on Mon, 01 Mar 2021 12:26 | #
Magnet, with “Willow’s Song” from the soundtrack to “The Wicker Man”….
The singer is Leslie Mackie, who played Daisy in the film.